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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:46 pm    Post subject: The Coming Crime of Following a Leader

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The coming crime of following a leader



Woke up yesterday with the story of the officer that may go to prison for refusing to go to Iraq, then later heard info on Milgrams experiment on tv, followed by info on the book “The Lucifer effect” . I decided to repost prophecies I posted in 2004 about the subject of the true intentions of leaders and about Leaders Lead Astray.


http://hotzone.yahoo.com/b/hotzone/20070102/hz_specialfeatures_1/blogs19056

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And when we have one branch of government that intentionally deceives another branch of government in order to authorize war, and intentionally deceives the people in order to gain that public support, that is a grave breach of our constitutional values, our laws, our checks and balances, and separation of power.




http://www.cnr.berkeley.edu/ucce50/ag-labor/7article/article35.htm

Milgram’s Experiment on Obedience to Authority

The Lucifer effect

http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9781588365873

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ABOUT THIS BOOK
What makes good people do bad things? How can moral people be seduced to act immorally? Where is the line separating good from evil, and who is in danger of crossing it?

Renowned social psychologist Philip Zimbardo has the answers, and in The Lucifer Effect he explains how–and the myriad reasons why–we are all susceptible to the lure of “the dark side.” Drawing on examples from history as well as his own trailblazing research, Zimbardo details how situational forces and group dynamics can work in concert to make monsters out of decent men and women.

Zimbardo is perhaps best known as the creator of the Stanford Prison Experiment. Here, for the first time and in detail, he tells the full story of this landmark study, in which a group of college-student volunteers was randomly divided into “guards” and “inmates” and then placed in a mock prison environment. Within a week the study was abandoned, as ordinary college students were transformed into either brutal, sadistic guards or emotionally broken prisoners.

By illuminating the psychological causes behind such disturbing metamorphoses, Zimbardo enables us to better understand a variety of harrowing phenomena, from corporate malfeasance to organized genocide to how once upstanding American soldiers came to abuse and torture Iraqi detainees in Abu Ghraib. He replaces the long-held notion of the “bad apple” with that of the “bad barrel”–the idea that the social setting and the system contaminate the individual, rather than the other way around.

This is a book that dares to hold a mirror up to mankind, showing us that we might not be who we think we are. While forcing us to reexamine what we are capable of doing when caught up in the crucible of behavioral dynamics, though, Zimbardo also offers hope. We are capable of resisting evil, he argues, and can even teach ourselves to act heroically. Like Hannah Arendt’s Eichmann in Jerusalem and Steven Pinker’s The Blank Slate, The Lucifer Effect is a shocking, engrossing study that will change the way we view human behavior.



I was only following orders did not help those that were convicted of war crimes in Germany

They followed a lie
July 2004 My posts on this subject back in 2004


http://groups.google.com/group/soc.religion.christian/browse_thread/thread/3b63a36334ff2416/23224db26bdf2c9a?lnk=st&q=dnatree+%22followed+a+lie%22&rnum=1&hl=en#23224db26bdf2c9a

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Religious Right is Wrong
In their attempts to be proved right the religious right have
overlooked the smallest of points. The rightness of God has nothing to
do with having the right interpretation; it is coming to know the
spirit of God in such a way that your intentions are MADE RIGHT. Many
who were banished by traditional religion for having experiences that
were not in line with the accepted interpretation are beginning to
show others that the true intention of the heart of Jesus was to end
religion as we know it by trapping the fearful that come to religion
to hide behind the veil of interpretation.
They will follow a lie: This is talking about the religious who love
their interpretation more than they love each other and have never
come to know the spirit. Interpretation gained through religion leads
to misinterpretation. A life coming to know the spirit leads to "my
moments with "YOU", my life, I treasure. Consider that the religious
right has backed a leader that is leading astray. (George W. Bush) and
that the interpretation they based their reasoning on is coming to be
seen as a lie. The intelligence frenzy leading to this lie is part of
the deluding influence.
To be continued: www.dnatree.us/lie




http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/browse_thread/thread/90b821a898ee349f/39772c49bc8ca376?lnk=st&q=dnatree+war+bush&rnum=1&hl=en#39772c49bc8ca376

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It is impossible to see anything when all you see is your
interpretation, your ideology.
This administration is like the religious that have their
interpretation and when reality proves it is wrong they do not see
that they distort facts to make it still seem to themselves that they
are RIGHT. They love their rightness more than they love Americans it
will soon reveal.




Leader prophecies

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From: Steven Spence - view profile
Date: Mon, Jun 28 2004 11:19 am


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Go to www.dnatree.us/serve to see bumper sticker and links Jesus said: Even the Son of Man did not come to be served but to serve. 1. Why scripture indicates Leaders always lead astray 2. Religious right hiding behind a veil 3. War and the original intent/ This administration is hiding behind Christianity but would spirit send a Shepard boy or spend billions. The reinterpretation of scripture to say that Jesus would wage war. 4. The Smallest of points overlooked by the "Right" The "Rightness of God" is not an interpretation of "who is right" for there are none right. But the "Rightness of God" is that when you believe the spirit you are made right, or the situation turns out right. The power of the "right people" will be removed once this has been understood as thousands now are preparing to show the world through their experiences. Fahrenheit The Coming Fire, So Hot, it will melt the veil between YOU and I in this country, and leave those that are HIDING behind a veil of religion or interpretation with nowhere left to hide. www.dnatree.us Leaders Lead Astray/ Vote True Servants/ www.dnatree.us/serve The smallest of points overlooked, by those that wish to control us, will soon alter the largest of equations and render all the interpretations meaningless. The veil of interpretation is what is separating you and I Let my anger tear the veil separating YOU and I For to put the wrath on you is to be angry at ones self The veil of interpretation which is being used by the right to control others was not given them by God but is a product of interpretation/ the truth will soon alter that premise and render all such interpretations meaningless. P. Steven Spence And the woman (harlot church) gave power to the beast (corrupt system)



Could following the MAN JESUS without seeking to know the true Spirit be following THE BEAST?????????
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Your moments in wonder, reveal the true intentions of the heart. The smallest of points overlooked changes everything and renders all the interpretations not given of Spirit,,,, meaningless!!!!


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I will send them a deluding influence so that those that follow the letter without knowing the spirit will be revealed. A stone will be placed in the path of mankind that they will not be able to pass without true Spirit. I posted this on prophecies but cannot find it now.


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Your moments in wonder, reveal the true intentions of the heart. The smallest of points overlooked changes everything and renders all the interpretations not given of Spirit,,,, meaningless!!!!

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